Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

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  • Published: 12 August 2019
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Comments • 6 068

  • Phillipe
    Phillipe  6 days back

    Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    • Adrian
      Adrian  32 minutes back

      @Linus Tech Tips HTC Cosmos is almost out, cannot wait for your review!

    • Solarizer
      Solarizer  1 hours back

      @Linus Tech Tips I would also like to see the review on the Rift S, but those index controllers and the game Boneworks looks very good!

    • Guybrush Threepwood
      Guybrush Threepwood  3 hours back

      I upgraded from CV1 to a Rift S. I find it miles ahead of Cv1, and currently the best bang for your buck. Ocant say I've noticed the stop to 80hz, and everything is buttery smooth, image clarity is miles better, I can read everything in cockpits while playing DCS.

      Yes the built in audio is shit, but it has a jack, my astros fit over the top x and I use 5.1s most of the time. Even with that, it's still excellent value.

      Index is no doubt better, but not twice the price better, given how fast VR tech is moving, Rift S is a better short term investment

    • Darron Edwards
      Darron Edwards  17 hours back

      @Zenroy Other way around for me chap, had the Lenovo WMR and it was pretty dire IMO ....sold it and bought a Rift S....a lot more compatibility and it just works. Each to their own though.

    • J cook
      J cook  17 hours back

      @mrrip inc. Agreed! and for the money its a deal! but i did notice the 80hz over the 90hz in beat saber, and the worst part of rift-S is the HEADPHONES!!!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!! that alone makes me want to take it back and get the index.

  • MD.Nafis Adnan
    MD.Nafis Adnan  19 minutes back

    Hay that's my cat 🐈 .

    • The Raddest Scorpion
      The Raddest Scorpion  25 minutes back

      Shadow is the best cat.

      • DeafBlindMan
        DeafBlindMan  32 minutes back

        Tried the vive once at a mall demo.. they asked me for comments and i was like: more fps, more fov, more resolution. Almost there but not quite. This could be the first passable vr set. The original vive was a nice proof of concept, but was very underwhelming and pretty lacking if you're used to playing pc games at high fps. Btw that finger tracking latency is so high i almost threw up looking at the video...

        • Viktor Pat
          Viktor Pat  1 hours back

          What katana is that in the backround?

          • Erik Püllenberg
            Erik Püllenberg  1 hours back

            You can do a minor bit of modding and actually adjust the angle at which the sabers protrude from your controller, youre not alone with that problem

            • RetroProfessional
              RetroProfessional  2 hours back

              4:37 uwu a kitty cat

              • Jonas Vilander
                Jonas Vilander  2 hours back

                KITTY!

                • Cris Chapilliquen
                  Cris Chapilliquen  2 hours back

                  Your cat needs to be in more videos

                  • Ida Bagus Jaya Sukarya
                    Ida Bagus Jaya Sukarya  3 hours back

                    The logo reminds me of MasterCard

                    • Reprisal
                      Reprisal  4 hours back

                      Down vote for trash 18:9 aspect ratio.

                      • Andrew Howard
                        Andrew Howard  4 hours back

                        Cats and tech reviews go well together.

                        • elides1
                          elides1  5 hours back

                          Crying in poor as i wait till christmas for the oculus quest :c

                          • Joan Ciao
                            Joan Ciao  5 hours back

                            good kitty

                            • Kaligath
                              Kaligath  5 hours back

                              Now i would love to hear how you make the HTC vive wands into leg trackers due to we have knuckles now as our main hand controllers.

                              • Yehia Elzatahry
                                Yehia Elzatahry  6 hours back

                                From where did you get it

                                • Ginger Ninger
                                  Ginger Ninger  6 hours back

                                  I feel like for me at least, this would be a fairly pointless upgrade, I can see the befits, that's for sure, but I can't justify the extra expense just so I can see a little further a little better, room scale is what sold me on the vive having gone from the Rift DK2. What I really need to do is get some funds together so I can upgrade my VR machine, when I was using my main PC I could absolutely play better than I currently can with my dedicated. i5 3570 is doing it's best.

                                  • meme man
                                    meme man  7 hours back

                                    I know it's definitely pretty far removed from when you filmed (and you might've figured it out already) but taking the frunk cover off improves thermals a fair bit, so if your face is getting hot or if your headset's getting a lil warm for your liking you can do that

                                    • Stuff On Saturday
                                      Stuff On Saturday  8 hours back

                                      VR is not dead... although a 999$ System might not be the best way to say it is still alive😃


                                      Dad got a Victormaxx Stuntmaster back in 97.
                                      We bought the Vive for 799$ when it came out.
                                      The Quest 399$ when it came out.

                                      Cannot currently justify the 999$ expense for this system.
                                      We are currently enjoying our Quest thou.

                                      • Anders Schulze
                                        Anders Schulze  8 hours back

                                        C A T

                                        • Saulo Benigno
                                          Saulo Benigno  9 hours back

                                          What a big trouble to setup this thing .... Oculus Quest anyone?

                                          • haui
                                            haui  10 hours back

                                            3:59 $1000 gear now with broken cable.

                                            • RubberBoa
                                              RubberBoa  11 hours back

                                              Why was the cat inside the box?

                                              • 2ndLastJedi
                                                2ndLastJedi  12 hours back

                                                Shadow!

                                                • 2ndLastJedi
                                                  2ndLastJedi  12 hours back

                                                  How far down the road can you see in say Assetto Corsa or Project CARS 2? I sold my Rift because I didn't like how far I could see in racing Sims.

                                                  • Toxically Masculine
                                                    Toxically Masculine  12 hours back

                                                    gosh nice gimbal

                                                    • CybershamanX
                                                      CybershamanX  12 hours back

                                                      (11:40) Heh. Linus is all out of breath. ;) Yeah, I wonder how much people actually consistently play their full body VR games. Every time I see someone play, they get tired pretty quick. :P

                                                      • Patrox92
                                                        Patrox92  12 hours back

                                                        Pimax 5K+ is also really nice VR headset if u want 170 horizontal FOV. If u try once u never gonna back to 120 FOV ;)

                                                        • Denu 187
                                                          Denu 187  13 hours back

                                                          $1000 for a VR headset to play crappy indie games... what a huge lol

                                                          • Moustache Spy
                                                            Moustache Spy  13 hours back

                                                            Why didnt you play the actual hands demo? You mostly played games that barely support the index. You also neglected to mention that the fingertracking improves over time with sustained use

                                                            • dwkwb8
                                                              dwkwb8  13 hours back

                                                              980ti??? Shame.

                                                              • Ben Vernon
                                                                Ben Vernon  13 hours back

                                                                My god, cats are such dicks. Why do people own them? 🤦‍♂️😑

                                                                • Hamish Hannay
                                                                  Hamish Hannay  13 hours back

                                                                  Cat not include 😆 darn

                                                                  • Riasat Salmin  Sami
                                                                    Riasat Salmin Sami  13 hours back

                                                                    When will vr get variable refresh rate support?

                                                                    • checkmate
                                                                      checkmate  15 hours back

                                                                      All of this sounds WAY too complicated to me to actually be fun.

                                                                      • Joseph Cavender JR
                                                                        Joseph Cavender JR  15 hours back

                                                                        Can the value index controllers be used with the vive

                                                                        • Hytrozion
                                                                          Hytrozion  15 hours back

                                                                          what is the utility of cameras in the front of the headset ?

                                                                          • Renato Medeiros
                                                                            Renato Medeiros  15 hours back

                                                                            why don't they do controls with a real glove controls?

                                                                            • William Lawrence
                                                                              William Lawrence  16 hours back

                                                                              Rfit S was a huge upgrade over the original Rift, should review that!

                                                                              • Tyler Durden
                                                                                Tyler Durden  16 hours back

                                                                                Neeeerd. good review though

                                                                                • Feint
                                                                                  Feint  16 hours back

                                                                                  IF you don't have any VR headset but you have a powerful gaming computer, are there any VR games that justify the 1000 USD investment? So far, the only game that looks worth it IMHO is Lone Echo which is an Oculus title. Sure, you can use something to allow you to play Oculus titles on Steam VR headsets, but aren't there control mapping problems?

                                                                                  • trinitrotoulen
                                                                                    trinitrotoulen  16 hours back

                                                                                    Hey Linus, can you play war thunder #warthunder with that headset ? thank you

                                                                                    • Sidney Candido
                                                                                      Sidney Candido  16 hours back

                                                                                      Linus, I know someday or another you're going to review the HP Reverb, can you do us a favor of including racing/flight games on the review? I think the Reverb might be perfect for those seated experiences, but I want your opinion

                                                                                      • Muhammad hiari
                                                                                        Muhammad hiari  17 hours back

                                                                                        0:57 wow a segue that makes sense

                                                                                        • andrew szerbiak
                                                                                          andrew szerbiak  17 hours back

                                                                                          So Linus wishes for a strapon experience? Interesting.

                                                                                          • J cook
                                                                                            J cook  17 hours back

                                                                                            he doesn't play BS on EX+.

                                                                                            • Edward Roy
                                                                                              Edward Roy  18 hours back

                                                                                              Damn he has a nose most Jews would envy

                                                                                              • Andy Ackerman
                                                                                                Andy Ackerman  18 hours back

                                                                                                I had no idea that you were into a strap on experience. Not judging.